I fired 200 of them this afternoon. This load had a chronographed velocity of 2,988 fps with 24.9 grains of powder. RCBS small base dies reach farther down in sizing for this very problem. I formerly used M855 as a With all the appropriate caveats and emphasis on starting 10% lower and working up looking for pressure signs, here is my current M193 clone load data: M193 equivalent 55gr Hornady fmj bt w/ cannalure LC 2012 decrimped brass Trimmed to 1.750" H-4895 - 25.5gr Fed 205 primers OAL - set to crimp midline 3095 fps from 16 barrel The rifle will lock back on factory M193 and M855. Or an equivalent dose of 322. Use H335 load data. The brass cases are annealed and appear similar to Winchester M855. Joker - the load I gave you above is the M856. This is a hot load but it chrono's the same as issue M855. In the process of working up a load with Varget/Lake City brass/Fed. But in my tests it is pushed for the really hot m262. If this is a reload, you may want to look at your load, it may be too hot. **** The 36 yard zero will work in an 18" or 20" gun. Load … It provides outstanding performance from the popular 7mm Rem Mag and 300 Win Mag through the Remington Ultra Mags and 338 Lapua. This particular load uses the SS109 bullet, which is a 62-grain green tip M855 full metal jacket projectile with a lead and steel core for retaining velocity and accuracy at longer ranges. If you were to believe the internet talking heads for the last 20 years, you would think H335 "25.0 grain load using 55 grain bullets" was the best load in the history of mankind. Ironically, the powdered tungsten was found to be more likely to leach into the local groundwater than the previous lead core. Probably not worth the trouble. The primer is brass colored with a green compound and secured with a crimp. Along with those two rounds it will lock back when using Gen3 Pmags, but not Gen2 or Gen1 Pmags. Next up for the Big Freakin’ Cartridge Test is Korean manufacturer PMC’s clone of M855, called X-TAC M855 LAP. Where is the best place to start? TAC did approach it, TAC is perfect for M855 loads, it is fantastic for match loads in with 73 grain Berger bullets and 77 grain match loads. Robin Match primers at this time. The bullet impact at 300 yards will be 3" low (1MOA). Its kind of funny, actually. This ammunition features very uniform-looking external dimensions, attractively finished brass cases and projectile jackets, and a reasonable price. Next up for the Big Freakin’ Cartridge Test is Korean manufacturer PMC’s clone of M855, called X-TAC M855 LAP. Anyone have load data for 5.56mm MK318? The 62 gr projectile is of Belgian design and uses a closed-nose, copper jacketed, lead core. What FMJ weight bullet performs best with 1:9 rifling? The 5.56×45mm NATO (official NATO nomenclature 5.56 NATO, fyv-FYV-six) is a rimless bottlenecked intermediate cartridge family developed in the late 1970s in Belgium by FN Herstal. The .223 caliber has evolved from the battlefield AR-15 platform to popular sporting use in varmint and predator hunting, match competition, and all-around plinking fun. I formerly used M855 as a 25.5 grains of 748 wil get you close. I also use a Lee crimp on these. ** The 36 yard zero will work with 55 grain M193 clone loads and 62 grain M855 clone loads. It cycles just fine in my old Winchester 1897, High Standard Supermatic, and a Norinco clone of the Colt 1878 side-by-side. I reloaded a bunch of 5.56 with M855 projectiles. I get about 3000 FPS velocity from a generic 20” barrel. SS109 NATO (known as M855 in the United States) Try this load if you would like, but remember every rifle is different. Next up for the Big Freakin’ Cartridge Test is Korean manufacturer PMC’s clone of M855, called X-TAC M855 LAP. I got to keep the powder and the bullets. I have ave been using win 748 lately because it’s available. Carbine length, if that matters. Don't know if it's good - bad - or indifferent, but that is what they list. And yes, these will be shot out of a 5.56 chamber. for PDP8 (/e /f /m /a) + VC8E (M869/M855) + DK8EA (M882) (+ optional DR8EA (M863) ) - Roland-Huisman/SpaceWar Went to the range and I didn't get the data I needed, some guy talked my time away and it got too dark to get the last few rounds over the chrono so I could leave with all my data. To clone the Gold Dot load, I once again used IMR 8208 XBR powder, Hornady brass and Federal GM205MAR primers. If you really want to clone the M193 - look for WC844 pulldown powder. M855 bullet itself is greatly over rated in my humble opinion. He would reload them with IMR4895 and match bullets. They are all copper bullets weighing 62gr. Good patterns and power with manageable recoil. I did however also shoot some M855 Green Tip, just to see how they compare. He would also swap out the upper on his M16A2 with a customer made upper that looked like the military model. This bullet and 22.2 Gr of IMR is equal to 68gr Hornady Match bullet, accuracy wise. A quick google-fu showed Slickguns having it for $167/8lbs, Jeff Barlett used to carry it too. The powders i used that chroned exactly what M262 chronoed were Varget which I … I started out at 100 yards with three-round groups, then 300 yards and 500 yards with five round groups. On 28 October 1980 under STANAG 4172 it was standardized as the second standard service rifle cartridge for NATO forces as well as many non-NATO countries. I wonder if I should try a new powder or is it the upper. This pretty much looked like a conventional M855 projectile, but the lead core was replaced by a compressed tungsten/nylon powder mix. This ammunition features very uniform-looking external dimensions, attractively finished brass cases and projectile jackets, and a reasonable price. I use it behind Nosler 55gr T-FB bullets - sub 1/2 min out of a 12 twist AR. This ammunition features very uniform-looking external dimensions, attractively finished brass cases and projectile jackets, and a reasonable price. SpaceWar! I formerly used M855 as a stockpiling round, although I have since switched to other rounds like Federal’s T556TNB1. The 24.3 grains of extruded powder was in a compressed load. The bullet will impact about 1" high at 300 yards. The 'issue' at this point is, which primer to use: CCI #41, CCI Small Rifle Magnum, or Federal Match. Nosler recommend a starting load of 23.0, Sierra 22.8 for a 63 gr, and Speer at 23.0. Reloading for the .223 is easy and there are a number of great powder choices. If you want to duplicate MX193 and M855 ammo you need to get the correct bullet.. the MX193 uses M193 bullets whch are 55gr FMJ-BT w/c and the M855 uses 62gr SS109 which are the green tip armor piercing. 100 yards, 3-round groups; M855A1 came out at 1.7 MOA and M855 2.2 MOA. MAGNUM is the ultimate high performance magnum rifle powder. It consists of the SS109, SS110, and SS111 cartridges. NATO adopted SS109 around 1980 as the standard 5.56x45mm load. Closest I can come up with is the 62gr Barnes TSX Data. *** The 36 yard zero will work for 14.5" barrels. Next up for the Big Freakin’ Cartridge Test is Korean manufacturer PMC’s clone of M855, called X-TAC M855 LAP. For the lighter 54 grain M196 load, TM 43-0001-27, page 10-8 lists the charge as WC 844 28-5 grains for 52,000 psi and 3200 fps 15 feet from the muzzel. 62 gr Ammo Comparison (pictured: M855 also known as SS109 or “green tip” ammo) Before I dive into the test methodology and results, a little background about the M855 cartridge is in order. Federal M855 5.56 NATO 62Gr 820Rnd Can - $429.99 This is new manufactured Lake City M855 military issue ammunition that was produced for the Saudi military but due to logistical issues caused by COVID-19, GunBuyer.com was able to secure a limited quantity of this highly sought after ammo. Luck more like it. I formerly used M855 as a stockpiling round, although I have since switched to other rounds like Federal’s T556TNB1. M193 likes 1:9 barrels while M855 likes 1:8 or 1:7; M855 penetrates slightly better; M193 better performance against soft targets under 100 yards; And FYI, there was a brief scare in 2015 that the ATF was classifying M855 as armor piercing and taking … *Note that with both M855 and M855A1, they came from mixed lots of ammunition. Probably will not hold a primer much longer. The M4 Carbine is a 5.56×45mm NATO, air-cooled, gas-operated, direct impingement, magazine-fed, select fire carbine.It has a 14.5 in (370 mm) barrel and a telescoping stock.It is essentially a lighter and shorter variant of the M16A2 assault rifle.. The precursor to the M855A1 was the M855 LFS (Lead Free Slug). I'm not really looking to truly reproduce M855, just wanted to load something and be safe. To maximize performance, the ballistics experts at Hodgdon Powder Co., Inc. have developed a comprehensive Reloading Guide to provide handloaders with current data for Ramshot Powders. But you will see it produced some very consistent results. This is likely from case head expansion. British SS109 5.56mm Ammunition: Cartridge, Caliber 5.56mm, Ball, L2A2 (United Kingdom) Under STANAG 4172 (standardization agreement)5.56x45mm NATO is the standard intermediate cartridge chambering for NATO forces. A friend was on a military rifle team. Here is my first set of .223 loads with IMR 4895. I don't see … Although a little slow, it was my starting load which I have worked up since then. This ammunition features very uniform-looking external dimensions, attractively finished brass cases and projectile jackets, and a reasonable price. The rifle is a BCM 14.5 Midlength, BCM Comp Mod 1, BCM Carbine buffer and spring. For my M855 clones I use 26 grains of TAC with the small rifle magnum primer and an OAL of 2.245. My cases weighed an average of 99.3 grains (The Winchester M855 case I weighed was 93.4 grains) indicating smaller case capacity. The average five-shot group size came in at 1.6 inches. The Hodgdon Reloading Data Center (RDC) lists 21 different powder types that can be used in the .223. Hodgdon H335 Review. Some ammo cans are loaded with 25-round boxes, others with smaller boxes, but always a total of 175 rounds. Wondering if anyone else has tried loading any of these bullets and had any success. Though not classified as armor piercing, the mild steel penetrator in the SS109 does indeed pierce more things better than traditional lead core projectiles. I would help him pull the bullets on M855 rounds.